Encore les taxes en Grece

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Greek Tax (TPP); Relaxation of Port Police Procedures (as at 30 June 2014)

A new Greek Tax, often referred to as TPP, will be collected once procedures are fully defined. This should take place some time in 2014. When it is introduced, there will be a transition period during which no penalties will apply. File attachments at the bottom of this page give full details of the TPP, and some clarifications given to the Cruising Association by the responsible Greek Ministry .

Meanwhile, a further law (4256) came into effect on 14 April 2014. (Members only: Greek version; English Translation) This law describes revised Port Police procedures introducing a considerable relaxation of formalities for cruising boats, and some changes to insurance certificate requirements.

Port Police (PP, more correctly called "Hellenic Coast Guard") throughout Greece have been told of the new procedures, but in June some were still ignoring instructions and clinging to old procedures (visits every 30 days). Most simplifications to regulations we have suggested have been implemented. So far, the following is clear:

All EU boats over 7m LOA cruising in Greece will have to have a DEKPA (These are the Greek initials for a "Cruising Bulletin" or "Private Pleasure Boat Maritime Traffic Document"). The DEKPA remains permanently valid for that boat. If an EU boat arriving in Greek waters doesn't already have a DEKPA, a new one will be issued for a fee (about €30). Non-EU boats will be issued a Transit Log instead of a DEKPA.
Once TPP is in force, the DEKPA/Tranist Log will be used to register the boat, and record payments of TPP, using an on-line central registry.
While the boat stays in Greece, the DEKPA has to be presented to PP once a year.
For Schengen immigration control, boats should carry an up to date crew list with passport or ID numbers, to be shown on request. There is no need to have this authenticated. (Members only: print and fill in the form from Schengen entry document.)
PP permission is no longer needed (a) when arriving in each harbour (b) to haul out (c) to re-launch (d) to leave harbour (e) to change crew lists
To fish from a boat, licences are no longer required
The port police should otherwise only be contacted if there is accident or injury at sea.
Port police have the right to visit the boat for the purpose of ensuring dues are paid
Certificates of insurance must be carried, and must show (revised) limits covered (see below)
Non-EU boats no longer need to pay 3 monthly cruising fees (Art 39 of Law 4256)

Local fees for electricity, water, and pick-up lines, and daily port fees may be payable.

New arrivals in Greece from outside Schengen no longer have to use a port of entry, but must notify PP and provide two copies of (members only link: Schengen entry document.) Effectively this means entering at a PP manned port. The Greek ministry confirms that it is not necessary to use an agent when checking in, whatever local sources may say.

For a variety of reasons, if leaving Greek waters for another country, we think it will still be prudent to check out, especially if non-EU crews exit the Schengen zone.

Insurance Certificates

Insurance certificates should cover the amounts listed below:

Ships of total tonnage smaller than 300 gt are obliged to have insurance for:

i) civil liability for bodily harm or death of the passengers and third parties because of collision, crash, sinking or any other cause. The insurance sum is fixed to fifty
thousand (50.000) euros per passenger and cannot be less than five hundred thousand (500.000) euros per event.

ii) civil liability for material damage of the passengers and third parties because of collision, crash, sinking or any other cause. The insurance sum is fixed to one
hundred and fifty thousand (150.000) euros.

iii) Cause of sea pollution. The insurance sum is fixed to one hundred and fifty thousand (150.000) euros.

b. The insurance contract is drawn up in Greek or English.

The old limits (which is what most policies covered in 2013) were €300,000 for bodily injury or death, €150,000 for third-party, and €90,000 for sea pollution. If you do not have a certificate covering this year's limits, contact your insurers to obtain a new certificate.


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 Tout cela résulte de discussions purement d'inspiration anglaise

Pour notre part, à STW, nous avons déposé une plainte officielle à l'Union Européenne, en vue de faire annuler toutes ces lois et réglements grecs :

- La Grèce, avec sa Loi TPP, viole pas moins de 6 traités internationaux qu'elle a signés et ratifiés.

- Par ailleurs, le fameux DEPKA contrevient également aux engagements de l'Espace Schengen : pas de fichage ni de documents d'entrée ou de sortie concernant les ressortissants de l'Union quand ils franchissent les frontières intérieures de celle-ci.

Nous attendons de pied ferme la Grèce sur le terrain juridique ; elle a abandonné des dispositions similaires il y a une dizaine d'années, sous la pression de l'UE ; nul doute que l'épilogue sera le même.

Les Grecs doivent bien comprendre que leur appartenance à l'Europe leur impose quelques obligations ; obligations qu'ils ne pouvaient ignorer quand ils ont négocié leur entrée. 

Sur le plan de l'obligation d'assurance (RC au minimum) , on ne peut être que favorable ; c'est le même raisonnement que pour l'automobile : circuler sans assurance est un risque bien trop grand.

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